|Clive Tuck – Langley Alloys Divn., Meighs Ltd, Chairman||Robin Oakley – QinetiQ|
|Keith Stokes, Imm Past Chairman - DSTL||R.J. Parry – LR|
|Phil Dent (committee) - Bodycote||J. Przydatek - LR|
|David Howarth (committee) – Lloyds Register||Wilhelm Schleich – KME Metal|
|Barry Torrance (committee) – Aish Technologies||Klaus Steinkamp – KME Metal|
|Jean Tuck – MCF Secretariat||Ed Warren – KBR|
|Peter Cutler - NiDI||Peter Webster – CDA|
|John Fowler – Rolls Royce||W. Wistance - LR|
|Roger Francis – Weir Material Services||Robert Wood – Southampton University|
|Nick Hardiman – IPT (MoD)||Guests:|
|Robin Jacob - Corrosion Consultancy||Mike Dale - MACAW Engineering|
|John Murphy – WSA (MoD)||Richard Everett – US Naval Research Global|
|C.S.Nettem - LR||Larrie D. Ferreiro – US Naval Research Global|
Chairman, Clive Tuck, opened the meeting at 11:00 am.
‘No Corrosion in 40 years – A Mission Impossible?’,
Mike Dale (MACAW Engineering)
‘Service Recommendations for CuNi90/10 Seawater Piping Systems’,
Wilhelm Schleich (KM Europa Metal AG)
Heat Exchangers with 70/30 Cu/Ni tubes and Naval brass tube
There was a question on the feasibility of the above
system. It was felt that, providing
the tube plates were of a thickness which allowed for a degree of corrosion, the
life could be sufficient for 20 years service in a vessel.
The system is commonly used in commercial ships.
Naval vessels tend to specify tube plates in nickel aluminium bronze as
this is a more corrosion resistant alloy.
Aluminium-hulled vessels tied to steel jetties
A question was asked on whether there was any evidence of
galvanically induced corrosion of aluminium-hulled vessels whilst being moored
to steel jetties. It was suggested
that the aluminium-hulled vessels should have been coated with a sufficiently
resistant barrier coating as well as having other applied paint systems.
Thus the likelihood of galvanic action would be minimised.
No instances of galvanic effects in this situation could be recalled by
any of those present. A person to
contact on this issue was suggested to be Bob Phull at Le Que.
Possible reactions between diesel fuel and aluminium fuel tanks
on board vessels
This question indicated that, as there had been problems with aluminium fuel tanks on ships, what was known about possible effects of diesel fuel with aluminium? As nobody present could throw any light on this, it was suggested that the best people to contact would be at Innoval Technology in Banbury.
‘The Use of Titanium in Naval Applications’,
John O. Fowler (Rolls Royce)
|Robert Adey – BEASY (guest)||Eric Martin – Intec Engineering (guest)|
|Henrik Andersen – Encana (guest)||Jagath Mawella – DPA (MoD)|
|Chris Baxter – Outokumpu Stainless||Bill Nimmo - NPL|
|Stuart Bond – TWI||Len Phillips – Weir Pumps Ltd.|
|Ian Bradley – Oceaneering International||Catriona Smith – BP Exploration Operating Company|
|Robert Cottis – UMIST (guest)||Kevin Waterton – CAPCIS|
|Mark Fraser – Aker Kvaerner Operations||Michael Wilson- BAE Systems|
|Tim Illson - Advantica||Jian-Zhong Zhang - Lloyd’s Register|
|Roddy James – iicorr Ltd|
MINUTES OF LAST MEETING (22 January 2003)
These were accepted as a true record of that meeting.
3. MATTERS ARISING FROM MINUTES
In addition to
the two advertised vacancies, Bill Nimmo (NPL) had sent notification of his
resignation from the position of Vice-Chairman and from the committee.
Phil Dent (Bodycote)
had agreed to stand for the position of Vice-Chairman.
Clive Tuck (Meighs) was standing again for the position of Chairman.
The meeting agreed to accept both of these.
There were three nominations for the three vacant committee positions: Robin Oakley (QinetiQ), Ed Warren (KBR) and Robert Wood (University of Southampton). The meeting agreed to accept all three.
Having successfully renamed the Marine Corrosion Club to
Marine Corrosion Forum, the MCF has had a year of excellent meetings and good
collaboration with other organisations, with many new ideas for taking the
In April, the MCF collaborated with Lloyd’s List in the
organisation of the successful Conference ‘Prevention and Management of
Marine Corrosion’ in London, taking a prominent role in the technical
programme. Also that month, we held a meeting in Aberdeen jointly with the
Institute of Corrosion Aberdeen branch, something the MCF has not done for a
few years. Both organisations
benefited from this, as attendance was extremely good and the discussion was
particularly valuable. We are due
to hold another such meeting in April this year.
Generally, attendance at the meetings has continued to be
high and the Open Forum sessions at meetings have been very useful as a
result. This year we have purposely broadened the scope of presentations to
include water treatment processes and have had a successful themed meeting on
composite materials. Other
subjects covered over the year have been the corrosion of carbon steel and
stainless steel (particularly at welds), copper alloys and nickel alloys,
corrosion mechanisms (electrochemical noise, microbiological corrosion) and
issues concerning environmental legislation affecting marine paints and
coatings. The wide range of
subjects once again goes to fulfil the Forum’s aim to advance the practical,
technical and scientific understanding of corrosion in aqueous environments.
Over the past two years the Marine Corrosion Forum has
demonstrated a reliable financial basis as well as continuing to benefit
financially from sizeable reserves. With
the greater confidence which this has brought, the committee has decided that
it would be appropriate to direct the Forum’s financial resources towards
better fulfilling the objective set out in the MCF constitution (‘to
disseminate information relevant to the needs of member organisations and act
as a co-ordination centre for research and development’) and to find ways to
make the meetings more attractive to existing members and potential new
members. Thus, starting in April,
some meetings will have an invited eminent plenary speaker whose attendance
will be funded by the MCF. Also,
it is planned to initiate research projects through the MCF which are of
interest to a number of member companies and which will be jointly funded by
the MCF and those members who are interested.
The Club website, which is the major vehicle for
international communication, has again been the subject of development during
the year, with a search facility being added which enables easy location of
relevant material on the site.
The Metadex survey of scientific papers of interest to
members, which has been carried out twice during the year was upgraded in July
to include the subjects of corrosive wear, water treatment and marine
environments. This increased the
number of references by about a third, increasing the benefit of this service
The value of being a member of the Marine Corrosion Forum and taking part in its activities has also been given greater value through the recent recognition by the Institute of Materials, Mining and Mineralogy and the Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology that the MCF offers a forum which will contribute to individual’s Professional Development requirements. Certificates for CPD use are available after each meeting from the Secretariat on request.
I will conclude by expressing my thanks all the Committee Members for their dedication and support throughout the year and their willingness to start the day at a very early hour in order to be at the 9.30am committee meetings. Due to this commitment, the programme for the coming year is well in place and our first plenary speaker has been arranged to be Tomas Sydberger of DNV Norway, who will speak at the MCF April meeting in Aberdeen.
The membership stands at 27.
We have lost BNFL, Heriott Watt and Metaltek, mainly due to changes of
direction within these companies, but have gained Kellogg, Brown & Root.
The Warship Support Agency is also in the process of joining us.
· The end of year accounts show that income consisted of membership subscriptions plus account interest. Expenditure covered venue charges, web-site fees, Metadex searches and Secretariat expenses. A satisfactory surplus was produced, giving a second year with a sizable surplus. This maintained the improvement on the previous two years, with a minimal surplus for 2001, and large deficit for 2000.
· The Management Committee have decided to increase the 2004 subscription fees by £52 above the levels for 2002 and 2003, but, in view of the extra costs to the MCF caused by late payment, to offer greater reductions if the member companies pay promptly. To facilitate this the prompt-payment period has also been extended from 1st April to 1st May.
The Full membership fees are therefore £640, but with a £100 discount for those companies that pay by 1st May 2004. This means that those who pay promptly will only pay £2 more this year than last.
The proposal to amend the Constitution, if accepted, will give an additional membership category for Sole Traders. Overseas membership and the new Sole Trader membership will be £400 with a similar £100 reduction for prompt payment. Overseas payments not in sterling will incur a charge of £50 to cover our bank costs.
The facility for payment by credit card using the web-based PalPay will be offered, at a charge of 3% to cover costs.
· The MCF web-site continues to provide a contact point. The average number of visits to the web-site, for the last quarter of 2003, was 184 per day. Any suggestions for improvements to the site are welcomed, as are any appropriate pictures or diagrams that could be used to add interest to the pages.
The Technical programme was presented to the membership.
Volunteers for presentations are always welcome.
The accounts were passed as correct.
AMENDMENTS TO CONSTITUTION
revised constitution had been circulated with proposed amendments:
Section 1 – to state
the date of the name change from ‘Club’ to ‘Forum’.
Sections 3.1.1, 3.1.2,
3.3 and 6.5 - to enable a new category of membership for Sole Traders
(one-person organisations), who would have full voting rights and reduced
annual subscriptions. It was
pointed out that anyone wanting to be viewed as a Sole Trader would need to
make a case for this to the committee.
Sections 4.3 and 4.4 –
to make it easier to co-opt members onto the committee (as non-voting members)
Section 4.5 – to
enable officers to stay in position for up to six years (instead of three)
subject to their being accepted in the annual elections at the AGM.
This was put before the membership, as it was currently difficult to
find people able to commit themselves to the position of Vice-chairman for
longer than a year, particularly if they were then expected to become
Chairman. If any officer was able
to commit themselves for a longer period it would be helpful if they were
permitted to do so.
Section 4.6 – it was
felt unnecessary for two committee members to retire each year.
Should a committee member fail to attend sufficient meetings there was
already a procedure for removing them from the committee.
Apart from one typo,
and the feeling that the word ‘office’ should not be replaced by the word
‘position’ in section 4.5, the meeting was happy for this to be put to the
Roger Francis, seconded: Barry
Torrance (Aish Technologies).
Carried by the meeting.
In view of the healthy
state of the MCF finances the Chairman explained that the Management Committee
had decided to recommend two ways of improving benefits to members:
· Invited Plenary speakers at some of the meetings, their expenses fully or partly funded by the MCF. The meeting felt that ‘Keynote’ would be a more appropriate term than ‘Plenary’. Apart from this, the idea was welcomed and it was suggested that someone from Le Que would be of interest.
Research Projects were an
early aim of the Marine Corrosion Club, but had not recently been undertaken.
It was felt that there was now scope to re-instate this idea. The
Chairman explained that it would cost around £13K per year to fund a student,
but if this was shared between the MCF and enough company members this could
reduce the cost for each participating company to around £1K per year.
There could be detailed progress meetings for those involved, with
short reports given to MCF meetings. A
Proposal Form was being prepared and would be sent out very shortly, in time,
hopefully, for the next academic year.
It had been suggested that Erosion-Corrosion
would be a topic of interest to quite a large number of people.
When asked, several of those attending indicated that it would be of
potential interest to them.
Proposals and statements of interest would go to the Secretariat. These could then be circulated to other members and possibly to outside companies, as this could be a useful way of attracting new members.
· A request was made that presentations given at Aberdeen should also be presented on another occasion, further south. This would be put to the Management committee to consider.
Roger Francis (Weir) said that he was the speaker for the April
Aberdeen ICorr meeting with which the MCF would be involved.
He explained that he would be encouraging discussion on six ‘hot’
topics on corrosion problems. These would be:
Temperature limit for high alloy stainless steels in seawater;
The effects of CP on CRA's subsea. (Hydrogen Embrittlement);
Corrosion under insulation for both carbon steel and CRA's;
Coatings - best coatings for field joints for high temperature
subsea and topsides piping?;
Fasteners - most reliable fasteners for resistance to
environmental cracking and corrosion?;
Injection Waters - what materials should be used when "deaerated"
seawater is mixed with produced water?
6 April 2004, Palm Court Hotel, Aberdeen (with Aberdeen ICorr)
7 July 2004, Novotel International, Birmingham
6 October 2004, Lloyds Register, London
26 January 2005,
AGM, Lloyds Register,
The meeting was closed at
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